PAYE out of sync with HMRC submissions & my accounts

Problem reported by Peter Jeffrey Gale 10 years ago

While reviewing my payroll data for previous months, the payroll system seems to have wiped out it's record of several months of my payroll data, even though the corresponding transactions have been reported/submitted to HMRC, and the accounting entries have been made in my accounts.

The three sets of records now seem to be out of sync ... how do I get them back in sync and up to date without incurring any HMRC penalties or paying more tax & NI than I expect to?

Peter

10 Replies

Hello Peter,

What was the name of the business you are referring to? I cannot seem to find your name on our admin pages.

Vanish

Hello Peter,

I cannot see any ones which are missing but I think it could be because you re-processed the payroll.

For making them re-sync, you will need to just process them once more and the submit the FPS RTI. The reason for late submission will be "Correction to earlier submission".

There will be no fines for HMRC on this because you already have a submission for that month and tax period slot.

Sorry for the inconvenience caused.

Vanish

Hi Vanish

I have manage to reprocess my payroll to get it back in sync up to the Dec (08) period for myself, but when I try to reprocess my January payroll for myself, the system calculates some Tax and NI deductions even though my payslips show that my wages at that time are below the tax & ni limits.

I see though that my last prior payslip does show a "Total Benefit" figure of £10,000 even though my gross salary paid at the time is only £7,500.

Could it be that the system is calculating the tax & ni base on the total amounts that it thinks has actually been paid and not the salary adjustment that I am trying to process?

Peter

Hello Peter,

Please can you let me know the name of your Clearbooks account or alternatively send us an email to contact support and I'll look into this for you.

Thanks,

Michael

Hi Michaael

It's GaleForce Technology Ltd

Thanks

Peter

Hello Peter,

I've just looked into this and it is because in January you will have exceeded the directors national insurance threshold so will pay it for February and March as well.

Thanks,

Michael

HI Michael

I can see that it does indeed start calculating NI deductions at £7956 total income to date.

That raises a couple of questions though:

  1. Why does it calculate employers national insurance contributions as well as employees when the employers allowance should cover the amount .. or is this taken off somewhere else that I can't see.

  2. Why has my wife's salary not had ni deductions calculated against it when she is also a director and has been paid over the £7956 limit?

(I am a little puzzled to that I was only going back to recalculate my wages back to December as they got out of sync with the HMRC submissions as detailed above ... and I'm sure I had got to over £8.5k of wages for myself with no NI deductions showing, but I can't find my email copies of the wage slips to show now.)

Peter

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